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Maarten Aalberse

31 May 2012

Isn’t T-1 the place where “and what happens just before…?” leads to?

Judy

1 June 2012

AIUI yes, if the thing it was just before was the moment of trauma. T = Trauma, in this model.

Maarten Aalberse

1 June 2012

The reason why I ask this is because I find identifying what happens “just before everything went (apparently) wrong” and developing more satisfying responses to those events very helpful in preventing the re-occurrence of such ill-fated events.

Maybe it’s more an issue for psychotherapists than for coaches?

In thinking about T-1, I’m also reminded of Caitlin’s excellent “how do you become” sequence : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Us05PJtfU

Maarten Aalberse

1 June 2012

Hadn’t yet read your comment, Judy.

And yes, I think we have different accents in our work (at times). Different background, different client-populations…

Mickey Judd

16 March 2014

Judy,

As one who has worked one-on-one with both David and Ceii I’d like my perspective on what I hear you saving. First, I agree with you that the basic idea is to “Develop, develop, and develop. And keep going until things change!” My qualification to this is “Of their own inherent needs and logic”. Thus, when you say that this is an effective outcome is:” My client this morning, who had a bright, warm light bulb in the centre of his chest, which made him feel confident… and when it flickers, he knows he can adjust it in its lamp holder and make it burn brightly again…” I would ask, “Effective by what criteria?”. If the criteria is “Develop, develop, and develop. And keep going until things change!” then I would answer no to having him intentionally control the flicker. To meet this criteria of develop I might ask, “ and what happens next when a warm light bulb flickers/” Of “what does flicker want to do? Or “And what kind of flicker is it when a warm light bulb flickers? Or…….

Best Regards

Mickey Judkovics

Mickey Judd

11 May 2017

Judy,

I’m not sure at what stage of David’s work that he was employed at a veterans treatment facility. One profound understanding and treatment question he created goes something like this, “When you hear my voice and I say the word “I” where is your sense of Iness when I say the word I?” It is intended to be convoluted to bypass the conscious mind. It is intended to determine the degree of SOMATIC DISSOCIATION. This is something rarely recognized among therapists today. I’ve found that this question works almost as well. “And when I say the word “I” where is your sense of “Iness” when I say the word “I”. In the hopes that this part of his legacy is preserved.

JR

15 May 2017

Thanks Mickey, very interesting. The very first time I met David he was experimenting with “pronoun scapes”, described here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hTWDgL2DKY which strike me as coming from the same kind of place.

James Tripp is exploring some of the hypnotic aspects of David’s work at the moment – for me, that “when you hear my voice…” makes a link to Milton Erickson…

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