David Grove, creator of Clean Language, was a consulting psychologist. He had a background in business – but where he did most of his his consulting was in clinical, psychotherapeutic contexts.
When I’m busy seeking to make Clean Language accessible and easy to pick up and use in everyday situations, the pieces I’m teaching can seem quite different from David’s original work. So it was good to have a reminder of the history from David’s former partner, Cei Davies Linn, at the Clean Conference recently.
As Cei tells it, David was working originally with people who suffered from phobic disorders, and then segued into a wide spectrum of trauma. Typical clients included adults who had suffered sexual abuse as small children (and the “Cleanness” of Clean Language meant that David and Cei were welcomed into a world where there was a clear danger of false memories).
From about 1974, she says, David was creating Clean Language based on the following rationale:
Create hygienic conditions within the client’s experience, allowing the experience to become more amenable to change
Avoid contaminating or deconstructing the client’s subjective experience
Facilitate a state of self absorption and naturalistic trance
Communicate effectively and efficiently with non-conscious processes
Reduce resistance
Translate feelings out of words into physiological imagery.
David’s therapeutic way of using Clean Language, in the main period he and Cei worked together, was significantly different from how I’d tend to do it in coaching, and how I teach beginners to use it.
Rather than developing a metaphor for an outcome, or indeed going for the worst moment of the trauma, David directed his question to “T-1”. Cei describes T-1 as “the moment one breath before the worst part of the experience. One count away from “take off”. The penultimate moment in time.”
They believed that it was typically at T-1 that the person would dissociate, and their symptom would often be “born”.
Here Cei’s worldview and mine wildly diverge. In her talk handout she says: “At a specific moment during a trauma, the child’s ego boundary becomes semi permeable. That is to say, the impact of a word or action enters the child’s experience as objects from the immediate environment. For example, a mother who is standing in the garden shouting at the child matches some element in the environment, such as a rock or stone or stick that “lodges” itself in an exact area of the child’s body. After a child has imported this foreign object, the metaphor, into their body as a representative of the event…”
Maybe it’s just because I don’t work in clinical contexts, but I find this kind of story doesn’t match my own or my clients’ experience. Maybe we haven’t had the “right” kinds of traumas in our lives. Yes, we find we have surprising, and sometimes unwanted, metaphorical objects in exact positions in our bodies. But whether they’ve been imported at the moment of a trauma? Who knows.
If they were, where do the good ones come from? My client this morning, who had a bright, warm lightbulb in the centre of his chest, which made him feel confident… and when it flickers, he knows he can adjust it in its lampholder and make it burn brightly again…
And I suppose that’s why the complex story that David – and Cei – wove around what they were doing doesn’t hold my interest. I’m more interested in what they actually did, what questions they asked and when, than the stories they were telling themselves as they did it. And luckily, that was where Penny Tompkins and James Lawley and their modelling project came in.
So Cei’s more subtle distinctions around different kinds of metaphors and how to work with them rather pass me by. “Young fragments”, “metaphors of dissociation”, “information storage forms” and “four quadrants” just never seem to click.
What does click, for me, is what to do about them. Get a location for the symbol. Develop, develop, develop. And keep going until things change!
Comments from original on judyrees.co.uk
Maarten Aalberse
31 May 2012
Isn’t T-1 the place where “and what happens just before…?” leads to?
Judy
1 June 2012
AIUI yes, if the thing it was just before was the moment of trauma. T = Trauma, in this model.
Maarten Aalberse
1 June 2012
The reason why I ask this is because I find identifying what happens “just before everything went (apparently) wrong” and developing more satisfying responses to those events very helpful in preventing the re-occurrence of such ill-fated events.
Maybe it’s more an issue for psychotherapists than for coaches?
In thinking about T-1, I’m also reminded of Caitlin’s excellent “how do you become” sequence : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Us05PJtfU
Maarten Aalberse
1 June 2012
Hadn’t yet read your comment, Judy.
And yes, I think we have different accents in our work (at times). Different background, different client-populations…
Mickey Judd
16 March 2014
Judy,
As one who has worked one-on-one with both David and Ceii I’d like my perspective on what I hear you saving. First, I agree with you that the basic idea is to “Develop, develop, and develop. And keep going until things change!” My qualification to this is “Of their own inherent needs and logic”. Thus, when you say that this is an effective outcome is:” My client this morning, who had a bright, warm light bulb in the centre of his chest, which made him feel confident… and when it flickers, he knows he can adjust it in its lamp holder and make it burn brightly again…” I would ask, “Effective by what criteria?”. If the criteria is “Develop, develop, and develop. And keep going until things change!” then I would answer no to having him intentionally control the flicker. To meet this criteria of develop I might ask, “ and what happens next when a warm light bulb flickers/” Of “what does flicker want to do? Or “And what kind of flicker is it when a warm light bulb flickers? Or…….
Best Regards
Mickey Judkovics
Mickey Judd
11 May 2017
Judy,
I’m not sure at what stage of David’s work that he was employed at a veterans treatment facility. One profound understanding and treatment question he created goes something like this, “When you hear my voice and I say the word “I” where is your sense of Iness when I say the word I?” It is intended to be convoluted to bypass the conscious mind. It is intended to determine the degree of SOMATIC DISSOCIATION. This is something rarely recognized among therapists today. I’ve found that this question works almost as well. “And when I say the word “I” where is your sense of “Iness” when I say the word “I”. In the hopes that this part of his legacy is preserved.
JR
15 May 2017
Thanks Mickey, very interesting. The very first time I met David he was experimenting with “pronoun scapes”, described here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hTWDgL2DKY which strike me as coming from the same kind of place.
James Tripp is exploring some of the hypnotic aspects of David’s work at the moment – for me, that “when you hear my voice…” makes a link to Milton Erickson…