An excellent little piece there IMO. Just going through a changework transcript (me working with client) and noticing how much clean is in there ‘in spirit’, but how much the wording changes to fit that moment and my approach (I use a lot of attention directing statements mixed in).
IMO the Clean Concept is the important thing to understand, and learning by doing Clean purely is probably the strongest way to get that.
All the very best
James
Wendy Nieuwland
4 February 2013
Hi Judy,
You like to stir things up a little, huh? 🙂
As you know, I absolutely agree with your statement about it not always all needing to be absolutely clean. It is not the “only right way”. It just adds a lot…!
Luckily, I would say that your phrase “Clean is typically taught as a standalone methodology for change” is (no longer?) the case. We see more and more people training Clean within the awareness of the “mixing and matching”.
Even so, a lot of trainees will still ask about how to use it, mixed in with other ways and approaches when learning it.
The tricky thing is, I find, that one has to learn the ‘pure’ clean way to be able to judge what is and what isn’t. Only then can you make informed decisions on when you will use it and when not. The awareness of you ‘muddling with the client’s stuff’ can only come then.
That awareness, and being able to choose to keep it clean when you want to, I would say are the key benefits of learning ‘the pure stuff’.
Hope to hear/see more of you again soon!
Wendy
Philip Rowland
6 May 2014
I recently started working cleanly with a client, and no matter how persistent I was in asking what he would like to have happen, developing the attributes, then asking “and when X, that is like what?” I got abstract heady conceptual, essentially rational answers. Finally I switched over to familiar Transpersonal Hypnotherapy techniques: I did a standard countdown induction, requested he imagine a safe space where we could work with a door to it, asked him to describe the door, then when he was ready, to enter that space, describe that to me, then imagine his higher self, in whatever form that might take, to give him a gift with a message about the situation we were dealing with.
From then on the metaphors came in easily, and I could use the clean language questions more effectively on the space, the higher self, the gift, etc etc.
As James Tripp has noted, sometimes the client needs some kind of ritual to shift over into metaphoric mode. And as much as I am very drawn to the Clean Language protocols, I find other styles such as Transpersonal Hypnotherapy and NLP have techniques that add to the CL and are very useful and effective.
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James Tripp
1 February 2013
An excellent little piece there IMO. Just going through a changework transcript (me working with client) and noticing how much clean is in there ‘in spirit’, but how much the wording changes to fit that moment and my approach (I use a lot of attention directing statements mixed in).
IMO the Clean Concept is the important thing to understand, and learning by doing Clean purely is probably the strongest way to get that.
All the very best
James
Wendy Nieuwland
4 February 2013
Hi Judy,
You like to stir things up a little, huh? 🙂
As you know, I absolutely agree with your statement about it not always all needing to be absolutely clean. It is not the “only right way”. It just adds a lot…!
Luckily, I would say that your phrase “Clean is typically taught as a standalone methodology for change” is (no longer?) the case. We see more and more people training Clean within the awareness of the “mixing and matching”.
Even so, a lot of trainees will still ask about how to use it, mixed in with other ways and approaches when learning it.
The tricky thing is, I find, that one has to learn the ‘pure’ clean way to be able to judge what is and what isn’t. Only then can you make informed decisions on when you will use it and when not. The awareness of you ‘muddling with the client’s stuff’ can only come then.
That awareness, and being able to choose to keep it clean when you want to, I would say are the key benefits of learning ‘the pure stuff’.
Hope to hear/see more of you again soon!
Wendy
Philip Rowland
6 May 2014
I recently started working cleanly with a client, and no matter how persistent I was in asking what he would like to have happen, developing the attributes, then asking “and when X, that is like what?” I got abstract heady conceptual, essentially rational answers. Finally I switched over to familiar Transpersonal Hypnotherapy techniques: I did a standard countdown induction, requested he imagine a safe space where we could work with a door to it, asked him to describe the door, then when he was ready, to enter that space, describe that to me, then imagine his higher self, in whatever form that might take, to give him a gift with a message about the situation we were dealing with.
From then on the metaphors came in easily, and I could use the clean language questions more effectively on the space, the higher self, the gift, etc etc.
As James Tripp has noted, sometimes the client needs some kind of ritual to shift over into metaphoric mode. And as much as I am very drawn to the Clean Language protocols, I find other styles such as Transpersonal Hypnotherapy and NLP have techniques that add to the CL and are very useful and effective.